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Federal government routinely hires internet trolls, shills..

by admin_pornrev » Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:20 am

Federal government routinely hires internet trolls, shills to monitor chat rooms, disrupt article comment sections

FROM: http://www.naturalnews.com/042093_inter ... nment.html

Tuesday, September 17, 2013 by: Jonathan Benson, staff writer
Tags: internet trolls, chat rooms, federal government

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(NaturalNews) You've probably run into them before -- those seemingly random antagonizers who always end up diverting the conversation in an online chat room or article comment section away from the issue at hand, and towards a much different agenda. Hot-button issues like illegal immigration, the two-party political system, the "war on terror" and even alternative medicine are among the most common targets of such attackers, known as internet "trolls" or "shills," who in many cases are nothing more than paid lackeys hired by the federal government and other international organizations to sway and ultimately control public opinion.

Several years ago, Canada's CTV News aired a short segment about how its own government had been exposed for hiring secret agents to monitor social media and track online conversations, as well as the activities of certain dissenting individuals. This report, which in obvious whitewashing language referred to such activities as the government simply "weighing in and correcting" allegedly false information posted online, basically admitted that the Canadian government had assumed the role of secret online police. At the time, this was a great unknown to the general Canadian public.

You can view this CTV News segment here:
http://youtube.com

Of course, the same type of online patrolling by the government is also happening in the U.S., particularly from the CIA and its infamous In-Q-Tel program. At a 2012 summit, former CIA director David Petraeus essentially admitted that the CIA has a covert online presence that it uses not only for data mining purposes but also to infiltrate online conversations for the purpose of protecting "national security" interests. Such interests, it turns out, include disrupting conversations that discuss topics like 9/11 truth, for instance, or U.S. involvement in giving weapons to Syrian rebels.

According to Occupy Corporatism, the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), which was recently exposed by American hero and whistleblower Edward Snowden for its illegal surveillance programs, has devised a training program that literally scouts out hackers from American colleges and universities and recruits them to work for the government. Among the many duties sought from those enrolled in the National Centers of Academic Excellence in the Cyber Operations Program are "collection, exploitation, and response" activities to take place in the online environment.

"These 'cyber operators' are trained to become an elite team of 'computer geniuses' that are experts in computer hacking, digital communications, cyber intelligence -- for the purpose of spying on Americans, as well as conducting interactive digital psy-ops with users of the internet," explains Occupy Corporatism about the program.

You can view the actual NSA announcement admitting this here:
http://www.nsa.gov
Alleged former 'shill' admits that trolling operations are real
Then there is the occasional confession by a former employee of the government who fesses up about what is really taking place in secret behind the scenes. A recent public posting on a "conspiracy theory" forum -- conspiracy websites are typically the most heavily targeted by government officials -- admits that individuals are constantly being recruited and hired by shadowy groups and government-affiliated agencies to manipulate online discussions.

"Shills exist," writes this anonymous ex-shill following a lengthy explanation of how he was hand-selected to pose as a normal commenter and basically lie on forums and in comment sections. "They are real. They walk among you ... You should be aware of this," he adds.

It should be noted that the alternative news website where this confession was recently re-posted was asked by the conspiracy website where it was originally posted to take it down, claiming that it is "libelous and utterly false," even though it does not name any specific names or identify who is behind these and other shill operations. When asked for an explanation, the conspiracy website in question simply stopped responding.

Sources for this article include:

http://youtube.com

http://consciouslifenews.com

http://www.nsa.gov

http://www.occupycorporatism.com

http://wakeup-world.com
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rachel
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So, since there are many trolls and shill here today and I've been harrassed up the yin yang by almost all of them incessently AND THEY EVEN CREATED A FAKE LESBIAN VERSION OF ME (Rachel with a capital R) I made a list. Please, natural news, after all these whores have put me through, please don't erase the list (I left J Gohde off it

SO THESE ARE THE SHILLS: (intentionally misspelled) Marmajuute, Viic, Groweer1, Samantinaa, Startled MOOOse, Jessicca Wilson, Johhn, Raachel with a capital R (my new lesbian clone) and hamilton-99. I suspect more but these I know.
I will continue to expose all the PAID trolls and shills I see regardless of how much they spit on me and personally target me. I am a person. They are paid shills. Shills work for the ENEMY. SHILLS ARE THE ENEMY.
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Crazy Canuck rachel
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Rachel please, quit the finger pointing,
you are showing signs of paranoïa.
If the " thumbs down" responses or posts that disagree with you bother you that much, why bother posting here and just concentrate on your own health and happiness.
You're not helping yourself by reacting this way.
Regards,
Crazy Canuck
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rachel Crazy Canuck
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"showing signs of paranoia?" You don't know what I've been through in my life or what I have witnessed. I am honest and will continue to be honest.
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neddy neatfoot rachel
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You forgot to put the Crazy Canuck on the list my dear.
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Jessica Wilson rachel
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The only troll you're exposing is yourself

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LambLion58
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So come on you shrills and trolls on this website. Lets get cracking and do your job. You too mr. Keep it up after all you want to bring home that weekly paycheck.
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mr
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Fake
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Robo
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Anyone engaging in this should be targeted and exposed.
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Lou Reed
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This is true. This is part and parcel of modern military PSYOP techniques (more recently called Information Support Operations, in an attempt to obfuscate their true nature and to be more politically correct...) though I'm sure these types of operations are largely conducted by domestic intelligence agencies and the like.
BTW, which "conspiracy" website asked them to remove the article? Was it GodLikeProductions? Anyone know? You talk about a site rife with shills...it's about as bad as Infowars. Damn near every article has droves of comments seeking to disrupt, distract, persuade, change and influence target audiences with the old gold-standard BS: "blame the N****rs, blame the Jews, blame the Christers, blame the left/right/dems/repubs, and on and on and on... Anything to keep people sidetracked from the real issue - certain factions within our government that have turned on their own people!
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Bright Eyes Open Wide
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The anti-smoker industry has practiced this trolling, shilling and sock-puppeting for several years to demonize smokers and smoking. Unless you have closely examined anti-smoker propaganda, most of what you think you know about smoking will be wrong. This is the result of a decades long, very complex propaganda campaign to protect polluting industry, corporate profit and historic government and political incompetence. Initially it was waged in the media, TV, radio etc. but as the internet has grown, it has moved onto internet forums and is now used for all sorts of subjects where public opinion can be molded by propaganda - not just the anti-smoker agenda.
Here is a blog highlighting an article instructing anti-tobacco employees on how to deal with the internet threat to their propaganda -it has moved on since then and has become far more complex, but you should get the idea and understand the principles and morals they work to;
http://cagecanada.blogspot.ca/...
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Russ L. Smith
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Now that the nudge squad is in effect, they are actually paying a little more and hiring people with degrees who can't otherwise find a job in their field. So where we used to get comments from imbeciles who could barely read or write, now we can at least have somewhat of a conversation with people who literally have nothing better going for them.
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Tim_at_where
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Mike, remember "Tessa"?
I can't believe this site alone is infested of those shills.
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Paul Sanders
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That is why I always ask them how much they sold their soul for. and what do they think when they look in the mirror. Do you realize you are creating this world for you and your family as well. Do your children know you are helping destroy freedom and liberty. a few of these normally shuts them up.
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AlienDan
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I call BS. There enough people with opposing views and enough people bored and having fun getting a rise out of peoples beliefs that the government doesnt need to hire anyone.
"Alleged former 'shill' admits that trolling operations are real" Anonymous?
HES THE ONE TROLLING. HAHA
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Sage AlienDan
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Seriously man, this issue is a real one.
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Paul Sanders AlienDan
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They have been doing this for years. Are you ignorant? or on the payroll?
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urdumb Paul Sanders
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And yet, the only person to ever come forth and admit it, chooses to remain anonymous. How convenient. Lmao
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Rachel urdumb
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You do realize that the government has a way to quiet people. Look at what happened to Snowden, he had to FLEE the country out of fear of the government. You don't want to cross them.
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rachel Rachel
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WOW. Could you really be any more ridiculous trolls?? Now your gonna make a "fake" rachel? She looks like a bit of a slut in the picture, don't you think? If anyone REAL out there still thinks trolls and shills don't exist--get a load of that "NEW" lesbian Rachel my very own personal troll flock made just for me. I must be pretty special for the secret agents to spend so much time on me. And tax money. I wouldn't get too close to me in person, trolls. My grandpa cut off a pedophiles peewee with a buck knife once because he tried to kidnap his daughter off the porch. I got a lot of my grandpa in me. But you're all too pansy to go face to face anyways. Cowards.
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Marmajute rachel
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Nice to see you making new friends rachel. Still obsessed with 'fake people' though, Is Rachel such an unusual name that she must be fake?
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Vic rachel
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You are the perfect example of what this article is referring to.. the irony..
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GuitarMan
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"A
Jew cannot be a true patriot. He is something different, like a harmful
insect. He must be kept apart, out of a place where he can do mischief -
even by pogroms, if necessary. The Jews are responsible for Bolshevism
[Communism] in Russia, and Germany too. I was far too indulgent with
them during my reign, and I bitterly regret the favors I showed the
prominent Jewish bankers." (WILHELM II. German Kaiser, CHICAGO TRIBUNE,
July 2, 1922)
"A
Jew remains a Jew. Assimilation is impossible, because a Jew cannot
change his national character or his nature. Whatever he does, he is a
Jew and remains a Jew. The majority has discovered this fact, but too
late." (The Jew Ludwig Lewisohn, in his book "Israel," 1926)
"If
you don't start NAMING your enemy for all the world to see, you stand
absolutely no chance in hell of defeating him" !!! ~ B C ~
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Herbert S. Daly GuitarMan
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You make me uncomfortably aware that Hitler was a vegetarian.
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CJ Herbert S. Daly
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Hitler's favorite meal was stuffed pigeon.
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Brian Bradley GuitarMan
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Uhm...Really?
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Uncle Chick GuitarMan
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1. Dip your head in a bucket of water three times.
2. Pull it out twice.
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Grower1
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What are the facts? Monsanto and the other big ag-biotech companies have developed reliable, biologically insect-resistant and herbicide-tolerant commodity crops that benefit people, farmers and the environment, and are nutritionally identical to their non-GM counterparts.
GM insect-resistant crops contain a gene that codes for a bacterial protein that’s toxic to an insect pest, but not animals or people. Insecticides are toxic chemicals that kill insects indiscriminately, both harmful and beneficial. They’re also poisonous to other animals—people included. Insect-resistant crops have reduced insecticide use. Biological solutions for insect pest problems were Rachel Carson’s dream.
Insect-resistant GM corn also decreases human and animal exposure to mycotoxins, highly toxic and carcinogenic compounds made by fungi. The fungi that produce mycotoxins follow insects into plants; insect-resistant plants have no insect holes for fungi to enter and therefore no mycotoxins.
Monsanto developed GM crops that tolerate a nontoxic herbicide called glyphosate, aka Roundup. Herbicide-tolerant crops have made a major contribution to decreasing topsoil loss by facilitating no-till farming. This farming method reduces CO2 emissions from plowing and improves soil quality.
Farmers don't have to buy Monsanto seed, nor is anyone preventing them from saving and replanting any seed they want, except for patented seed they've signed an agreement not to save and plant. Farmers buy seeds from Monsanto and other ag-biotech companies because their costs decrease and their profits increase. If they didn't, farmers wouldn't buy them again.
If the popular mythology about farmer suicides, tumors and toxicity had an ounce of truth to it, these companies would long since have gone out of business. Instead, they’re taking more market share every year. There's a mismatch between mythology and reality. Maybe it's worth remembering that technology vilification is about as old as technology itself. What's new is electronic gossip and the proliferation of organizations that peddle such gossip for a living.
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timeofmind Grower1
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"Because of the uncertainties and unpredictable nature of unintended effects, the Center for Food Safety recommends a rigorous approach for testing the safety of genetically engineered foods. The current voluntary regulatory review by FDA does not provide adequate guidance for safety testing and generally allows companies that develop genetically engineered crops to determine how they will test genetically engineered foods for safety. Even widely recognized harmful toxins, anti-nutrients, and allergens have not been consistently tested for in crops reviewed by the FDA. Such lax testing requirements and oversight cannot be relied upon to identify less predictable public health risks and must be substantially improved before there can be confidence in the safety of genetically engineered foods." - Doug Gurian-Sherman, Ph.D., Senior Scientist
http://www.centerforfoodsafety...
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Do you put this GMO propaganda on every single NN article, regardless of its subject matter?
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sheeple terminator Grower1
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So how mach do you make per hour? Looking for side job. Can promote monsanto. %gmo is beneficial for hunger and farmers%
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In 2004 I saw a letter to a farmer who had applied for gov't subsidies and the letter from the gov't of Canada said that due to their SATELLITE IMAGING they determined that the farmer had x acres of this crop and x acres of that crop. If the satellite imaging was able to determine that in 2004, the technology has only gotten better.
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justsayno
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The U.S. giving weapons to Syrian rebels? That photo of Sen. John McCain with the Syrian rebels speaks a thousand words.
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johnrhett justsayno
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For the ignorant person who clicked the "down" arrow: "First Syria rebels armed and trained by CIA 'on way to battlefield'" - UK Telegraph Sept. 18, 2013
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justsayno
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CarlySimon is a troll. And an ugly one too.
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Crazy Canuck
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Lots of shills and trolls right here on NN that trashes on good articles about GMO's dangers to our health. One example is an idiot that keeps saying that GMO's are "good for you" .
We can say the same about many other health topics as well. We don't have to agree with every article written here but common sense should prevail.
People that dislike this website have the choice to unsubscribe instead of continuously bashing just about everything said here.
I myself don't agree with every article posted but thanks to this website, I've learned a lot about the importance of eating the right foods and avoiding the dangerous stuff.
Keep up the good work NN.
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AlienDan Crazy Canuck
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Trolls yes, shills no.
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Sage AlienDan
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I'm absolutely sure you're the most educated person on this subject. I'm sure your opinion is vastly more important than former government employees admitting it's happening... lol.
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johnrhett AlienDan
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Some of them HAVE to be paid; note the number of posts here that have nothing to do with the article but are just pro-big-government trolls, like the pro-GMO post above. How anyone can justify putting human DNA into food crops is beyond me, not to mention the horrific effects on organic life that researchers in other countries have been finding.
Example: Bees have been dying by the tens of thousands after exposure to GMO crops; one bee study discovered that bees were dying en masse during the study and the researchers found that the GMOs weaken the bees' resistance to parasites by weakening the intestinal walls. A study of pigs in Australia found the same effect in pigs. Makes you wonder what it does to people.
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Margarita Ulsaker Crazy Canuck
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Yes, I've got some "admires" after commenting about the guy who was confronting smart teenage GMO-activist girl on TV. I wonder if those trolls are from his support group. But actually it's just funny because this kind of activity obviously doesn't make any sense

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Federal government routinely hires internet trolls, shills..

by admin_pornrev » Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:21 am

rachel Margarita Ulsaker
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When they harrass a person really bad, not just once but constantly, they will try to get them to cry or feel so bad from the way they are being treated by "people" on the internet that they won't comment anymore or share their experiences or knowledge. Yesterday a certain troll told me I should delete my disqus profile. J Gohde (although it was erased by moderators along with my comment) insulted me and then asked me "how I manage to breathe" all while knowing I have severe persistent asthma an MCS and can't even go outside anymore, that I have almost died from respiratory illness. They are here to make us hurt. To psychologically and emotionally torture people who "know too much" or "talk to much" about the truth. They want us to "shutup." This is an old program with a new twist since the internet gives them more room to play. People have been harrassed and murdered for telling the truth--especially retired military. They don't want us to communicate. That's how it makes sense what they do. For example: Where did Marc Authier go? We can hope he just got sick of the internet and found something better to do. But I noticed that he was being harrassed by gangs of trolls constantly right before he stopped commenting. I can't say I know that's why someone who regularly comments would just stop almost completely, but I understand the likeliness of that because the harrassment is THAT BAD. They make people feel terrible about themselves and when nobody defends them they just quit commenting. Do you see?? They do have an evil agenda. And it makes perfectly evil sense.
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Robo rachel
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Sticks & stones. People are too sensitive these days. Who cares what some pimple faced retard says about you online.
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John Gohde rachel
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It is called having a thick skin, and not having a nervous breakdown in public every time somebody criticizes you. It is NOT always about YOU, rather it is ALWAYS about moi.
Just thought that you might want to know.
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Margarita Ulsaker rachel
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Rachel, I feel for you, and I hope you won't quit commenting. The only way to deal with that is to completely ignore all these attacks. That's what they come here for - to get someone upset. If they don't get what they want, eventually they'll leave. And don't take personally anything that someone tells you - who cares what do they think? You are the only one who knows who you are and that you are right.
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Samantina Margarita Ulsaker
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Margarita, before defending Rachel you should read all the horrible personal comments she makes about people, and the foul language against anyone who disagrees with her. Her comments get deleted by the administration, but I'm sure some of the milder ones remain.
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StartledMoose Samantina
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Thankyou, I needed to hear someone say something like that.
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Daniel F. Melton rachel
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And you can judge the effectiveness of your statements and responses by the attacks the liberals bring against you.
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Yep, happened to me on a comment I made on an anti truther video. Started calling names and so on. Of course, that could happen anyway. What are you going to do? Waste time arguing with a troll? We put up with way too much.
The social media is designed to track all our comments from site to site and Google works with the NSA to make the information searchable based on various criteria such as if you are opposed to vaccines. They are closer to winning than we think IF they can just shut down a few alternative sites.
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I'm not so sure that they are close to winning. I think they realize the movement is growing toward the "alternative medicine" movement. If they had not, the Senate would not have just declared October 7-12th Naturopathic Medicine week.
Facts are this: We know Big Pharma and the FDA share the same bed. We know they put profit first over patient care. So why then would they really care about declaring a week of notoriety for naturopathic physicians? And why are they slowly legalizing naturopathic medicine which is in 17 states now with the recent passing of Colorado.
They claim they value the medicine, but yet they keep naturopaths in a limited role. Colorado is a great example. Due to the opposing view on vaccines held by most ND's, they will not allow ND's to see patients under 2 years of age fearing they pose a risk to the patient. Meanwhile, everyone clamors in excitement that they gained licensure, but yet they fail to realize they are being told how they will practice medicine.
The most disturbing thing about this entire thing is that what I thought was an astute group of individuals within the profession is filled mostly with, what I see, as gullible individuals believing that they will get equal recognition as MD if they are accepted by insurances. Perhaps its because all I see are the people who are in school, and the majority make up a younger population.
The older MD's (the generation before the baby boomers) got out of medicine because the insurances dictated how they were to practice. While I disagree with the allopathic philosophy, the allopathic model today is NOT what it was in the 1800's and early to mid 1900's. If you read the books from that time frame, it's a different philosophy. Now its just profit. But these individuals left for that very reason, and now these young gullible ND's are just throwing away their profession to the insurances and government.
The naturopathic profession is going to be swallowed up by the government and insurances. I would venture to say that the best naturopaths will likely be the ones who don't accept insurances, so remember that if and when your health fails. As someone who has been a PA in the allopathic model for 13 years, and completed 2 years of ND school, I can tell you that the Naturopathic profession is not what it once was. It is becoming allopathic. Still far better, but they have lost their sense of origin and are quickly losing their independence. This is what is really going on in the profession that I doubt you will hear from anywhere else.
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As someone considering naturopathy, this is interesting...
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Daniel F. Melton
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Not only do they listen and record, they engage in manipulation and deliberate antagonism. Your federal tax dollars at work...
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I knew it!!! This government will go to any lengths to push their agenda. If it weren't so scary, it's be comical.
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I knew it!!!!! My word, how far the government will go to push their agenda. It's ALMOST comical, but in reality, scary as hell.
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Shills and morons have every right to be here. However if a government that supports free speech tries to hamper it then something has gone amiss.
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That's what a shill is, a government paid employee. Your comment has two opposing statements.
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Please feel free to check a dictionary, expand your definition, and make the appropriate contrast with the following statement.
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Reynaldo Neggle
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The govt actually pays for shills. It's called entitlements. Every new person added to the rolls of an entitlement program will never vote to get rid of said program. They'll actually vote to have it expanded. Our excuse for letting this happen is the economy being dismal.
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You know, I've wondered about this as well, especially with drug companies if they have a staff of trolls to go out and debunk anything negative about their products. This story isn't surprising.
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In Canada drug companies are not allowed to direct market their product. I found an unbiased letter to the editor from a doctor who was promoting the HPV vaccine. When I googled this doctor he was employed by Merck.
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One way to look at this are (aspects of propaganda).
They stand out to me because I have researched the history and practices of the propagandist. They are presumptive and assumptive while being very subtle.
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Apart from shills there are also the idiots and sheeple who really believe the vomit they are being fed to
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John Gohde sheeple terminator
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Daniel F. Melton sheeple terminator
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Be sure to thank those who designed and implemented the "publik eddykashun (indoctrination) sistum". Do you wonder at the "teachers union" vehement resistance to charter schools and home education?
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Looks to me like that "John" guy has been following you around the way the trolls follow me (possibly under different names but he seems to know you, doesn't he?). I can see so easy who they are...like a psycho-circus of dim witted, poo throwing monkeys ganging up. It's nothing new, really, just the internet version of harrassment. My dad has been harrassed since Vietnam. He watched my grandpa get murdered by these gangs of creeps--shot in the chest with some kind of unconventional weapon by some guy in the bushes. They had him committed after the war to shut him up, or atleast void his credibility, one technique they often use. That way he couldn't testify in court. They just went down the bloodline and the rebellious ones like me get targeted too, physically and online. They target people with "unconventional" weapons that will slowly torture and kill. And most nobody knows...even many who are targets don't know. They like it when we stay at home and don't talk to anyone ever. Makes their job easy. And then when we do talk, they say trigger words like "tinfoil hat" or "conspiracy theorist" or they insult your worste illness, like Jonh Gohde down there asking me how I "manage to breathe" (with severe asthma).
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Now, why would I know that you suffer from severe asthma? Do you honestly think that I am your physician? I just thought that you lacked the I.Q. to be able to do that little trick.
But, now that I know, I am NOT surprised at all that you suffer from major health problems, at such a young age. Unlike you, being in my 60s, I suffer from virtually nothing; except perhaps you.
I have been in the natural health business for over ten years. I, also, managed to cure an adult female, in my own chat room, without health insurance or money of diverticulitis using just vitamin A. Unlike you, she was very grateful for the little tip that I gave her. She told me that her female physician gave her a dirty look and insisted upon taking her picture, when she found out that she was no longer suffering from a life threatening colon blockage.
Natural health works and is basically FREE to all who bother to work on their lifestyle.
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Daniel F. Melton rachel
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"john" is not even a competent troll. He can put forth no cogent arguments and his attempts to denigrate and sneer range from preschool to third grade at best. Unless you feel inclined to zing these blowflies, I would suggest you ignore them. They're not worth more effort than it takes to give 'em a down vote
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John Daniel F. Melton
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Home education is the ultimate method of indoctrination.
Kind of obvious.
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John Daniel F. Melton
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Because you're only interested in spending your time repeating the same lines day after day.
Open bag no limit, your ideas for how we need to hold elections, then some rant against socialist scum. Every day the same.
Your answer isn't required to see that homeschooling is the ultimate form of indoctrination. The untrained parent has free reign to teach whatever they want to their child with no consequences. Plus they are depriving their children of the normal social behavior they need for proper development.
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Johnny John
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Normal social behavior, such as learning ones place amongst the bullies, jocks, nerds and rich kids, right? That was my experience in the government schools. I learned quite a lot about fighting in the playground...
But to your point, sometimes homeschool can be done in a sheltered manner, I would agree, and that's why many in homeschools make an effort to network with others, and have group classes, or partake in things such as 4-H, Boy Scouts, etc. Maybe do a little more research into it before making a blanket judgment.
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Yes, learning one's place like you have to do in the rest of your life.
I agree, homeschooling can probably be done in better non-isolated ways with networking etc. However, I don't think that is the norm. Because then you might as well go to school, right?
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They need to hire smarter more clever ones who can actually spell and hold a conversation if they intend to really do any damage... arguing with the ignorant holds no interest for most of us....
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justsayno Sarah J Barendse
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My troll is a grammar Nazi.
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Daniel F. Melton Sarah J Barendse
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But they assemble to form "occupy" groups.
Open season, no bag limit.
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Ruby Smith
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Yahoo groups is where I found my first chat groups. I joined a goats list serve and learned how to do holistic organic goat husbandry. For 5 years it was better than university education but unfortunately the vets and medical students entered and started sewing seeds of doubt. Methods that have worked for millennia like diatomatious earth and artimesia for parasite control were ridiculed and folks who tried raising goats organicly were called cruel monsters. When we proved the effectiveness with fancy microscopes we were the ones called shills and fakers. Many old school herbalists quit the sight because of harassment. I have an organic dairy and a fake facebook account so I can learn without being a lightening rod for trolls.
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Can somebody direct me to a chat room? I have yet to stumble across one of these legendary chat rooms. (Satire)
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Richids Coulter John Gohde
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Do you know how to use Google?
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Google is being used to track you.
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"Shills exist," writes this anonymous ex-shill following a lengthy explanation of how he was hand-selected to pose as a normal commenter and basically lie on forums and in comment sections
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The FEDs do NOT have to pay for shills. There are far too many people with their own private agenda who are all too willing to disrupt commenting on NN for FREE. But, I bet that NN is paying for their Disqus Monitors.
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sheeple terminator John Gohde
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what private agenda? other then boredom and the need to express yourself
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John Gohde sheeple terminator
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Huh? A Science Shill obviously has the private agenda of promoting science. It is private because no body is paying them to do so.
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Same thing here. My troll is called CarlySimon.
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Daniel F. Melton rachel
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You too kind to that bunch of socialist whores.
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rachel Daniel F. Melton
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Looks like they deleted my comment and the insults I was sent...
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Daniel F. Melton rachel
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Curious. Why your comment I wonder?
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I did use the name of a troll in it, but everything I said about her/it was true. And I called trolls and shills the filthiest scum on the bottoms of the dirtiest slug-stepped-in feet in the world and they will have to live for the rest of their lives knowing that's what they are while they watch and experience the suffering from the chemical caused illness, death and genocide they supported with their lies and know they were part of that death. I was a little rude. But it was all the truth.
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Some people in authority consider the truth to be too harsh for discussion forums.
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Me thinks the man doth protest too much.
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God's Miraculous fOod rachel
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You are such a whiner, no wonder no one likes you.
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Anyone want to know who the shills are just look at the list of up votes under god's miraculous fart and see who's on the list. Click on their names. Most of them are "private." That's their new thing. "Private." They think if they set their profile to private we won't know who they are---like we can't tell!!! LOL
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oh yea and if they added my name to the list that's because I'm a TARGET. Because I like to EXPOSE who the all the shills are and they don't like that so they use DISQUS (made for trolls) in ways the ordinary person cannot. I voted him down too.
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Jessica Wilson rachel
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Hi sweet rachel. I'm one of those voters, and my profile is not private, so if you want to have a look you knock yourself out. I see my friend Moose voted too, and his profile isn't private so I'm sure he won't mind you having a look either.
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That's a very troll like post. I'm guessing you're just sore because it was your post that got deleted?
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God's Miraculous fOod rachel
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Who really cares about up or down votes anyway? You must still think you are in a high school popularity contest. It is interesting why you deleted your comment above, that is really troll-like!!!
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usaok59 God's Miraculous fOod
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Well, she's got more "likes" than you do!
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You spoke too soon. She's well known for trolling & swearing on the forums here.
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*gasp* swearing!? !!! oh my goodness!! shackles!! sheckles and the ball and chain...and to the rotten fruit throwing torture device !! Burn the witch...burn the witch..let's all chant now in unison....burn the witch...burn the witch......! Who's got the torches?
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So you trolls are really voting down the burning of me???
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Children read this website too, show some respect witch.
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