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Is Australian Foreign Minister Bob Carr a spy?
FROM: http://www.independentaustralia.net/201 ... arr-a-spy/

Posted by admin in Australian history, International, Politics on 11 April, 2013 12:01 am / 24 comments
The Age exposes the Australian foreign minister as an “agent” under US influence; Murray Hunter asks — is U.S. influence in Australian politics destroying policy objectivity?

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Foreign Minister Bob Carr (image courtesy ABC).

JUST AROUND a week ago in Beijing, Australia’s Foreign Minister Bob Carr entered the US-Korea conflict by trying to persuade the Chinese State Councilor Yang Jiechi to adopt sanctions against North Korea.

On Monday (8 April), an investigative journalist from The Age, after going through 11,000 cables from the U.S. embassy in Canberra and consulates in Sydney and Melbourne, leaked by US Army Private Bradley Manning and published WikiLeaks, found that the current Australian Foreign Minister Bob Carr had been briefing the US embassy since the 1970s on both the internal decision making of the Australian Government during the Whitlam Labor Government (1972-75) and internal workings of the Australian Labor Party (ALP).

Bob Carr has been Australia’s foreign minister for 12 months, replacing Kevin Rudd, who resigned after challenging Julia Gillard for the prime ministership. Carr has been involved in the Australian Labor Party for more than 40 years and was New South Wales premier from 1995-2005.

Carr began his relationship with US embassy officials in the mid 1970s, when he was president of Young Labor and education officer of the NSW Labor Council. According to The Age investigative report Philip Dorling he would regularly brief the US Consul General over labour issues and the prospects of the Labor Government in Canberra. From the information gathered from Carr and also NSW Labor President John Ducker, intelligence reports on Australian politics and labour issues would be sent onto Washington. Leaked US cables to WikiLeaks also indicated that the former Labor Senator Mark Arbib was also a “protected” US embassy source passing on information and commentary on Australian politics.

Bob Carr is very well known for his staunch support for the Australian-US alliance as an non-negotiable pillar of Australian foreign policy and often dismisses critics as being in “emotional silly expression lacking in any substance and characteristic of the silly leftwing fringe of the ALP”.

With such rigid advice to the prime minister and cabinet at a time where many academics and commentators like Professor Hugh White of the Australian National University are calling for a re-appraisal of this alliance and much more strategic engagement with China, it is very difficult to see how the Australian Government’s pending 2013 Defense White Paper will signal any major shifts in policy on this matter.

Hugh White: Abandon the Alliance? How China's rise will shape Australia's future
http://youtu.be/HojBPUloUgs

At the very least, hanging on to the Australian-US alliance without any objective appraisal and redefinition may not serve the country’s strategy interests in the Asia-Pacific Region well if the U.S. continues a competitive stance against China.

These revelations add to past suspicions by many in the labour movement about members of the party and government (when Labor was in power) who have been involved in close relationships with U.S. officials.

Labor suspicion of U.S. intelligence operating in Australia mainly stems from the election of the reformist and nationalistic Whitlam Labor Government in 1972, after 23 years in opposition. Whitlam immediately pulled Australia out of the Vietnam conflict, recognized the Peoples’ Republic of China, campaigned for a nuclear free Indian Ocean, spoke up for Palestinian rights in the United Nations, and opposed French nuclear testing in the Pacific.

In 1973, the then Attorney General of Australia Lionel Murphy led a raid on the Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO), the equivalent to the U.S. CIA, over concern with the organisation’s involvement with the training of fascist Croatian groups, and the launching of terrorist operations from Australian soil. According to the Hope Commission back in 1977, ASIO was handing over to the CIA information on Australian opposition politicians and kept files on all ALP members.

The Australian Secret Intelligence Service (ASIS) was assisting the CIA in undertaking clandestine operations in Cambodia and Chile, even though Australia was officially neutral in Cambodia and supported the Government of Salvador Allende in Chile, without the knowledge of the Australian Government.

Many felt that when the Whitlam Government took measures to control the operations of the US Naval Communications Station on the North-West Cape of Western Australia, the Defence Signals Directorate in Melbourne, the Joint Defense research facility at Pine Gap and Nurrunger in South Australia, that the U.S. became vitally concerned.
Whitlam Dismissal and the CIA http://youtu.be/1JQ7-xvgcHA

After Whitlam discovered that ASIO and ASIS had secretly assisted the Indonesian invasion of East Timor in 1975, he dismissed the heads of both organizations. Whitlam then hinted that he may not renew the Pine Gap agreement with the U.S. due for signing on 9th December 1975, which would have severely dented U.S. intelligence gathering ability. Labor mythology believes that the U.S. ambassador to Australia at the time, Marshall Green, had a hand in the dismissal of the Whitlam Government in November 1975 by the then Governor General Sir John Kerr. Of course, Kerr‘s time working for a closely aligned Australian intelligence organization to the U.S. OSS, the forerunner of the CIA, has always added spice to such conspiracy theories.

During the first week after the dismissal of the Labor Government, the army was on stand-by at their barracks in case there were mass demonstrations. However, it was the Australian Council of Trade Unions then president Bob Hawke who summoned the labour movement to be calm. US diplomatic cables also implicate the former prime minister, saying he regularly conferred with the U.S. Consulate in Melbourne during his ACTU years. It was generally believed that the Labor Attaché at the U.S. embassy in Canberra was in reality the CIA station chief (McKnight, D., “Labor and the Quiet Americans”, The Age, February 20, 2003, p15). The future Hawke Government, elected in 1984, went on to implement many pro-U.S. initiatives, and prevented public disclosure of documents relating to the Nugan Hand Bank during his term as Prime Minister, which were believed to implicate the CIA with drug trafficking and organized crime,.

This is the first time that leaked U.S. documents have confirmed what many believe to be the truth surrounding U.S. infiltration within the Australian Labor Party. The issue is likely to be very quickly dismissed in Australia by the argument that the U.S. is an ally. However, within these documents there is some proof and support that the U.S. has meddled in the affairs of the Australian union movement and political parties for many years. What is even more astounding is that some Labor politicians showed disloyalty to their party to a foreign power during the Whitlam years.

Bob Carr has been forthright in exposing past politicians as members of the Communist Party of Australia, so should take the accusations against him seriously, either stepping aside for the duration of an inquiry or resigning outright. David Combe‘s relationship with a Soviet diplomat Valery Ivanov back in 1984 led to swift action on the part of the Hawke Government at the time. In the interests of transparency and sovereignty, the Australian Federal Police and ASIO should conduct an inquiry.

Somehow I doubt this will happen.
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Tags: 2013 Defense White Paper, ACTU, ALP, ASIO, ASIS, Australian Council of Trade Unions, Australian foreign policy, Australian Government, Australian Labor Party, Australian National University, Australian Secret Intelligence Service, Australian Security Intelligence Organization, Australian-US alliance, Bob Hawke, Bradley Manning, CIA, Communist Party of Australia, David Combe, Defence Signals Directorate, featured, Hawke Government, Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd, Kim Jong-un, Labor Party, Lionel Murphy, Mark Arbib, Murray Hunter, North Korea, NSW Labor Council, NSW Labor President John Ducker, Philip Dorling, Professor Hugh White, The Age, the Chinese State Councilor Yang Jiechi, US-Korea, Whitlam Labor Government, WikiLeaks
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24 Comments
1. Guy Debord
11 April, 2013 at 1:00 am
While Murray may be correct in stating this is the first documentary evidence that US representatives actively courting and making use of ALP figures as a source for intelligence, the links between the right faction of the ALP and the US are well known.
Despite the hollow excuses about “spending more time with family” I’m sure Arbib’s resignation was triggered by his cover being blown as a US intelligence asset, thanks to the previous release of cables by Wikileaks. It will be interesting to see how Carr’s betrayal is handled…his links to US interests in Australia are well known but will these new Wikileaks revelations make his position untenable as Foreign Minister, having to deal with the likes of China in particular?
The US and the C.I.A. have been meddling in Australia for years. For anyone interested in this topic I suggest checking out the film THE FALCON AND THE SNOWMAN, a 1985 film with Sean Penn and Timothy Hutton. The film is based on the true story of CHRISTOPHER BOYCE, an idealistic son of an FBI agent who goes to work for a civilian defense contractor that deals with secure US government and intelligence communications. In his priviliged work Boyce becomes disillusioned with the US when sees intelligence cables dealing with cynical CIA operations trying to overthrow democratico governments, IN PARTICULAR CABLES DEALING WITH CIA PLANS/OPERATIONS TRYING TO DISPOSE THE WHITLAM GOVERNMENT IN AUSTRALIA. Boyce is so disillusioed and angry he takes much of this information and sells it to the Soviet Union, using a school friend as an intermediary to take info to the Soviet Embassy in Mexico.
THE FALCON AND THE SNOWMAN. 1985 CHECK IT OUT
2. MarilynS
11 April, 2013 at 5:38 am
Hawke also railed against Whitlam for not being arse licking enough to Israel.
3. Harry A Boniface
11 April, 2013 at 7:44 am
This is an amazing site! We are so fortunate to have free access. We should each pause and consider the fact that these expos’es would never have appeared in the national press. It is time for an inquiry into the monopolised media in this country, controlled by minority forces for the benefit of foreign agencies. The shady affinity of a sequence of Prime Ministers with the US/Israel alliance has seen our soldiers killed in the defence of Israel’s borders – while the Palestinian nation disintegrates in the world’s (i.e. Israel’s)largest concentration camp of Gaza. The predominance of Israeli agents in Australian and American politics subverts the spirit of democracy. Surfie quotes our current PM as stating that “she would die for Israel”. Former Foreign Minister & PM Rudd claims ” that Israel is in my DNA”. Bob Hawk’s record of ‘association’, surely, puts him in the catagory of a Quisling? Australians must change their priorities becoming aware of the political intrigues being perpetrated against this country from within it’s highest offices.
4. TechinBris
11 April, 2013 at 7:55 am
Surprised by this? In one word, no.
One only has to closely watch his maneuvering over many years and obvious actions and outcomes show the likelihood to be very much to the affirmative. Not the first and definitely not the last US Stooge in an important place in our Governments.
They like it that way!
5. Cracker
11 April, 2013 at 9:04 am
I don’t know if you can characterise Bob Carr as a spy, just because he likes Americans. No more than you can characterise Robert Menzies as a spy for Britain because he liked the British and was Lord Warden of the cinque Ports and he did but see her strolling by.
No more could you consider John Howard as a spy for George Bush for his infatuation with America.
It behooves all of us to think about these relationships a lot more closely and what their impact on Australia is.
I don’t like the Israel business and their association with America. They have no intention of peace with the Palistinians as is evidenced by their illegal settlements in the West Bank. And their continues occupation of the Golan Heights.
However it does take two to Tango. Someone has to make the first step.
Australia is far too close to America (in my view). We are too small a country to get involved in places like Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan and have been drawn into those conflicts by a flawed (again my view) foreign Policy. Australia should have a defence posture but not an aggressive posture where we send troops overseas.
Defence should mean defence of our country.
Thank you.
6. Bruce Rugby
11 April, 2013 at 9:14 am
My apology here for being late because this should appear under the Thatcher article. Is this a feeling shared by others?
“Without it, we would not have the vigorous competitive press that is a feature of modern Britain.” So said Rupert Murdoch in his flowing tribute to Margaret Thatcher. What a devious man he is. Given that he is largely responsible for moulding the minds of Australians more effectively than any politician his reference to a competitive press is hypocrisy of the first magnitude. I referred briefly earlier to ‘Mr Wapping Murdoch’ and have noted that OPAL has supplied a link from the Guardian. If ever there was a period of class warfare this had to be it and this stirring individual who has been flying around Australia recently, with his favourite redheaded shining light hovering in the background can we expect another bout of political mischief?
Sadly the unions who in their own right exercise a similar attitude of weilding power provide a catalyst for opposing views with conservative backing to break that unremitting demand ‘for more’ culture that often inhibits growth which benefits all. Given that the union movement has many self-serving individuals their lot is no less aggressive toward the working community as those who like the Murdochs and Reinharts believe they were born to rule. As I see it they have Tony Abbott firmly in their sights to do on a smaller scale what Margaret Thatcher did to Britain.
7. cornlegend
11 April, 2013 at 11:37 am
If Carr is in bed with the Yanks, it wouldn’t surprise me.
There have been a conga line of ALP , prepared to rat on their own Country.
As Guy Debord said in an earlier post, the Yanks don’t mind getting their hands dirty, fixing Australian politics
Christopher John Boyce, a convicted C.I.A. Agent claims that he began getting misrouted cables from the Central Intelligence Agency discussing the CIA’s desire to depose the government of Prime Minister Gough Whitlam in Australia. Boyce claimed the CIA wanted Whitlam removed from office because he wanted to close U.S. military bases in Australia, including the vital Pine Gap secure communications facility, and withdraw Australian troops from Vietnam. Whitlam had also begun making diplomatic overtures to China, For these reasons some claim that U.S. government pressure was a major factor in the dismissal of Whitlam as prime minister by the governor general, Sir John Kerr, who according to Boyce was referred to as our man Kerr by CIA officers.
from wikkipedia
Still whats new, they’ve done it hundreds of times to other countries
8. silkworm
11 April, 2013 at 11:40 am
Bruce W: “his favourite redheaded shining light”
This slight against our PM exposes you as as just another Liberal stooge.
9. opal
11 April, 2013 at 12:07 pm
Silk, Bruce was referring to Rebecca Brooks, recently out here when Murdoch was.
10. Kangxi
11 April, 2013 at 12:25 pm
Good to see at least one ALP official on the right side of history!
11. GBF
11 April, 2013 at 12:28 pm
Silk: yes, Bruce was referring to Rebecca Brooks best known as “the wicked witch of Wapping”
12. cornlegend
11 April, 2013 at 1:11 pm
Kangxi
Where have you been ?
you haven’t been trolling lately.
13. opal
11 April, 2013 at 2:01 pm
What a tangled web.
I note that The Age can still do some investigative reporting when it wants to. Was the fact that it was on Bob Carr in line with their get Gillard Government/support Abbott-Murdoch policy? And yet again, this little expose deflects attention from the Governments ongoing achievements.
Any member of the ALP or the LNP who sells their soul to the US betrays their country, in my view.
And speaking of the LNP, who in their ranks isn’t a paid up member of US Inc? Any of them?
14. MarilynS
11 April, 2013 at 3:53 pm
No Opal, they are the Kissinger files that relate to events from 1972-1975 when Whitlam was PM.
It has nothing to do with anything but that.
Why is it that partisans see conspiracy everywhere?
If anyone but Whitlam had been PM in those years the cables would have been about them you see.
15. Murphy
11 April, 2013 at 4:36 pm
I found Glenn Carle gave intriguing insights to the CIA and near end of video gave clues as to what the CIA look for in their diplomat/spy agents.
Interview with the Interrogator: Glenn Carle and David Leser
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stori ... 515541.htm
16. suthoboy
11 April, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Silkworm, even if it was a slight on the PM, why would this make Bruce a troll ?
Any independant thought or criticism of the PM on this site appears to get the same response.
17. MarilynS
11 April, 2013 at 5:00 pm
You are correct suthoboy, they want to lynch me.
18. Bruce Rugby
11 April, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Silkworm, since OPAL and GBF were perceptive to read the comments correctly and you have made an assertion let us hope that you are man enough to rescind the comment.
19. suthoboy
11 April, 2013 at 5:51 pm
Right you are Marilyn S, although I do not agree with all your comments, I find your passion for your beliefs impressive.
The defensiveness of some people on this site boarders on psychotic.
20. pat moore
11 April, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Provincial pragmatists, knowing upon which side their bread is buttered? Such a great student and admirer of US history is Carr. He even looks like Lincoln and bears a brotherly resemblance to the bony new foreign secretary. Mushrooms need only bullshit. Vale Gough & the 70′s. In the late 60′s remember peasants, the chant was “All the way with LBJ”? All the way down the gurgler we went. Ha ha. Forgone conclusion.
How about the Australian government powers that be…not sovereign… announce tomorrow that “Yes people we are in fact a peripheral and minor state of the Zionist USA/Israeli empire, though masquerading as an independent country and our ruler/President is actually Barack Obama.”
The provincial governor/governess, “prime minister” to us, is currently Julia Gillard. And we are required to contribute to the empire’s wars and make sure “our” economy is open for the benefit of their corporations….sign on dotted line. And on your knees when Deputy Murdoch, Director of Information visits our shores, peasants. Our political representatives must in fact represent the interests of our Zionist US/Israeli government and suppress by disinformation and denial any pretension to sovereignty by the Australian people. Voting is compulsory in the provincial elections of our little democracy in order that they may install the favoured, most cooperative party representative. Enjoy our little masked ball farce in September punters.
All together now… hand on heart and sing… The Star Spangled Banner. That little sad, lonely voice in the background wailing “…but who’ll come a waltzing matilda with me…..?” is required to shutup.
21. daveoponic
11 April, 2013 at 7:45 pm
Australian politics will be a whole lot more interesting if Julian Assange is elected to the senate. The ALP has been white anted by the likes of Bob Carr, Hawke and Arbib for years, selling us out to the US and Zionist interests. This political history needs to be told. No wonder Carr showed little interest in offering assistance to Assange. Drug dealers on death row by contrast will receive regular visits and help from consular officials.
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23. Jerry Cornelius
14 April, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Question for the author:
You wrote:
‘After Whitlam discovered that ASIO and ASIS had secretly assisted the Indonesian invasion of East Timor in 1975, he dismissed the heads of both organizations.’
How and when did Whitlam sack the heads of ASIS and ASIO?
24. Jerry Cornelius
14 April, 2013 at 4:35 pm
I think this is a very important issue. There is now a lot of information out in the public domain about the way the U.S. influences Australian domestic politics, and how it gathers intelligence on us.
However, this is a very poor article.
It contains serious errors of fact, in some cases stating as fact matters that are yet to be proven in court.
For example, the article states that Bradley Manning leaked the cables published by Wikileaks. That is certainly the contention of the US Govt, but it’s not been proven yet. Manning is still innocent and his innocence should be publicly maintained until and if there is a legitimate legal finding otherwise.
Secondly, the Hawke govt. was not elected in 1984.
Thirdly, as I alluded in my comment above, Whitlam was no longer in power when Indonesia invaded Timor Leste. Fraser was the caretaker PM when the TNI paratroops were landing.
There are others, and this article serves to muddy the water on an issue of critical importance to our democracy. It needs to be edited properly with an eye to fact checking (Wiki would be a good start), or it should be pulled.
25. Miles Q
17 April, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Jerry: in 1975 and, I don’t know, sat them on his knee and told them fuck off? Not sure on that one, but it happened somehow.
Good examination of the dismissal:
http://www.kooriweb.org/foley/resources ... _coup.html
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